The Gun Control Industry Freaks as Another Front in Biden’s War on Guns is Shut Down

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“HE DID WHAT?”

Firearm prohibitionists reacted with anger and outrage last week to learn that the Trump White House had ordered the removal of former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy’s anti-gun tract, Firearm Violence: A Public Health Crisis in America, from the official Department of Health and Human Services website. This formally ends yet another chapter of the Biden-Harris administration’s weaponization of the federal bureaucracy against America’s gun owners and the industries that serve them.

The move was in response to President Trump’s executive order “Protecting Second Amendment Rights,” which seeks to identify and eliminate “any ongoing infringements of the Second Amendment rights of our citizens[.]”

As the White House explained to The Guardian: “Illegal violence of any sort is a crime issue, and as he again made clear during his recent speech at the Department of Justice, President Trump is committed to Making America Safe Again by empowering law enforcement to uphold law and order.”

We had written about the release of the HHS advisory at the time, noting it vindicated NRA’s opposition to the appointment of Vivek Murthy as U.S. surgeon general during the second Obama-Biden administration. The usual suspects in the anti-gun media had criticized NRA for opining on the nomination, suggesting – among other nonsensical things – that it could cause an Ebola epidemic in the U.S.

Murthy had done nothing to distinguish himself as an expert on Ebola. He had, however, politicized his position as a doctor to pretend that he had special insight into the causes of firearm-related crime (he didn’t) and to call for gun control as the head of the advocacy group Doctors for America.

Dr. Vivek Murthy
Courtesy senate.gov

Nevertheless, Murthy solemnly told Senators under oath at his first confirmation hearing that he would not use his platform as surgeon general as a bully pulpit for gun control and that he would instead focus on America’s obesity epidemic (see video at 50:40).

Americans only got fatter during Murthy’s first term as surgeon general from 2014 to 2017. Nevertheless, Joe Biden reappointed him to that role for his own administration from 2021 to 2025.

But whatever Murthy’s shortcomings as a doctor, he finally proved the NRA right and broke his promise to the Senate last July by publishing and then promoting, in a series of media appearances, his 40-page “U.S. Surgeon General’s Advisory” declaring “firearm violence” a “public health crisis.”

As we noted in our analysis:

[T]he advisory has nothing to do with treating gunshot wounds, dealing with potential lead exposure from handling firearms or ammunition, hearing loss from exposure to muzzle reports, or any other medical issue pertaining to guns. Instead, it is a simply a taxpayer-funded tract that promotes the same tired slate of oppressive gun control laws that Murthy’s fellow firearm prohibitionists have wanted for decades. It also seeks to provide cover for the disastrous crime-control failures of Murthy’s Democrat party by insisting that firearm assaults and homicides are akin to a disease or contagion rather than crimes committed by predators (most with lengthy records) who too often act with impunity.

It was, in other words, anti-gun politics masquerading as “science,” exactly what NRA had warned would come of Murthy’s elevation to surgeon general.

The failed effort in labeling “gun violence” a “public health epidemic,” now some 30 years old, has done absolutely nothing helpful to reduce firearm-related mortality in the U.S.

That, however, has never really been the point. Instead, the steady stream of “studies” produced by anti-gun “public health researchers” has been used to buttress calls for all manner of gun control and to try to convince Americans that guns are dangerous to their health.

This framing, as The Guardian acknowledged, “also led to more dollars from federal government offices, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Institutes of Health, for research that could illuminate preventive methods.“

Yet the preordained outcome of this “research” has almost uniformly reached the conclusion that the best “prevention” is to avoid owning a gun entirely, or – barring that – to make sure any gun in the home is rendered useless for what the Supreme Court has identified as the core Second Amendment purpose of “immediate self-defense.”

A gun control advocate quoted in The Guardian’s article resorted to gaslighting by claiming that labeling “firearm violence” a public health issue “actually removes the politics from the issue and is an engine to get us on the same page.”

That is the opposite of the truth, which is that this technique is a way of politicizing “science” and “scientific inquiry” to funnel taxpayer money to the political project of undermining Second Amendment rights. Its origins come from the successful campaign against the tobacco industry, which at least involved products that were inherently unhealthy and addictive, including when used lawfully and exactly as intended.

The importation of that paradigm to firearm regulation, which concerns a constitutionally protected product that can be owned and used with perfect safety and to the benefit of its owner, was never a good fit. But the goal is the same: to pathologize guns, marginalize gun ownership and use, and to extract as many resources from the gun industry as possible to further anti-gun causes.

The administration’s revocation of Murthy’s anti-gun propaganda effort is a good start to compliance with President Trump’s Executive Order. Hopefully, it will be followed up by the defunding of all publicly financed anti-gun advocacy posing as public health research in favor of real scientific study of diseases, contagions, and other legitimate health-related subjects.

That might make gun control advocates sick to their stomachs, but it would be a tonic for those of us who value our freedom.

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48 thoughts on “The Gun Control Industry Freaks as Another Front in Biden’s War on Guns is Shut Down”

  1. Let’s think this through. Instead of a war on guns, maybe we should realign our priorities to be against murder. Maybe we could look to the past to see how we previously decreased the murder rates. Once we unlock that secret knowledge, we could go about implementing it and saving lives. But would that make it more difficult or less difficult for Democrats to secure positions of power? Should Dems go against likely D voters or likely R voters? Oh well. Looks like murder’s back on the menu, boys!

    1. No different than the Dems approach to all the drug addled zombies everywhere. Thanks to Narcan they can claim overdose deaths are down. So what? Overdoses are still high. Addiction is growing.
      The Dems are like if Phillip Morris found a way to both cure cancer and make nicotine more addictive. Keep the problem going at a defined manageable level as long as possible and profit.

  2. Pete Hegseth
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    1. You remember robert mcnamara, right miner? The guy that announced on the evening news in advance of airstrikes into North Vietnam? Giving the enemy the heads up as to times and targets? He served two presidents. both dems.

      Your outrage, like all things about you, is false. But you continue the same strategy that broke the left this last election. It’s kind of fun to watch.

      For a paid chaos agent you ain’t very good.

    2. .40 cal Booger

      and? Big Deal. Its not classified and its not war plans…. plus since that time the Atlantic has basically admitted their story was a lie on those two things.

      stop trolling Miner49er

  3. Hey, sorry, we made a mistake, please ignore that last message. Y’all got put on this group chat by accident so if you would just ignore that last comment that would be great thanks!

      1. “And yet the American people still think the current admin is better“

        Sure, propaganda works, especially when the world‘s richest man spends billions to support your campaign.

        But this current national security blunder has opened many people’s eyes to the fraud and incompetence of the Trump/musk administration.

        The real question that should be asked is why they were using an app that doesn’t store messaging. Don’t government employees by law have to document these discussions? That way if there’s an issue there can be a record for the investigation? If military personnel had been killed, there would be zero record for investigation.

        The United States maintains two separate secure messaging networks for use by government and military, SIPRNET and JWICS, both of which utilize secure devices. All of the principles involved in this chat have a secure commo team that travels with them, why didn’t they use those assets?

        They used Signal to avoid NARA (National Archives and Records Act) laws. Plain and simple. They did not want this conversation to be scrutinized or recorded because they were breaking the law.

        The courts can’t subpoena the records through Signal so it was advised in Project 2025 for them to use an encrypted 3rd party app to communicate off record.

        So much for Trump‘s presidency being “the most transparent ever”.

          1. You know, you can say the operation wasn’t an act of war, but as Will Rogers once pointed out,

            “The boys doing the fighting say it’s the best imitation they’ve ever seen”

          2. Your attempt to redefine words falls flat.

            “Biden’s War on Guns“

            You claim it is a war when Joe Biden advocates for stricter laws on firearms, but when US military forces actually bomb targets in foreign countries, it’s not a war.

            Your incompetence is matched by your hypocrisy.

        1. .40 cal Booger

          Your wholoe rant is nonsense, but this in particular…

          “They used Signal to avoid NARA (National Archives and Records Act) laws. Plain and simple. They did not want this conversation to be scrutinized or recorded because they were breaking the law.”

          100% false

          Signal was approved for use on their government devices. It came preinstalled on them because Joe Biden approved it being installed on such government devices and his admin used it too. So Joe Bidens admin “used Signal to avoid NARA (National Archives and Records Act) laws. Plain and simple. They did not want this conversation to be scrutinized or recorded because they were breaking the law.”

          1. “Joe Biden approved it being installed on such government devices and his admin used it too“

            No doubt, many folks in government have used signal, but Biden‘s administration specifically ordered Government officials not to use signal or other such apps for sensitive information.

            Perhaps you would care to read this yourself from a Fox News article:

            “A Department of Defense memo from 2023 under the Biden administration detailed that while Signal was approved for some use by government officials, they could not use the platform to “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information.” CISA’s guidance related to Signal was released after the Department of Defense guidance.”

            As I’ve detailed before, we maintain secure messaging apps, specifically designed to protect the integrity of our sensitive communications regarding military actions, SIPRnet and JWICS are both secure messaging apps designed for use by our top level intelligence leadership, but the Trump administration is too ‘smart’ for that apparently.

            And you can claim that those attack plans are somehow not worthy of classification, but that just means you’re an idiot who doesn’t understand anything about military operations.
            Warning your adversary you’re coming two hours before the planes launch from the carrier gives them time to alert their air, defense assets, reposition targets and prepare a counterstrike. Surprise is the greatest weapon in our arsenal, and using unsecured civilian messaging apps allows sophisticated adversaries to read our mail before the planes ever launch, much less appear on target.

            Obviously, protecting the Trump administration’s ‘credibility’ is more important to you than protecting the lives of our troops.

            ttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-era-guidance-encouraged-use-signal-app-highly-targeted-govt-officials-best-practice.amp

          2. We shouldn’t be defending this one outside of keeping the media honest. It was a blunder, and it is an embarrassing scandal, though it isn’t as bad as some people are acting. Obviously they’re pouncing on a chance to push the Orange Admin Bad narrative, and who can blame them? That’s their thing.

            On the plus side, the bad things are all hypothetical, and the event already happened without the bad things. Afghanistan was an entirely different story. Remember how Democrats were screaming for resignations and accountability after they got our guys killed, bungled the departure, and killed an innocent family for good measure on the way out? Yeah, I don’t either.

          3. .40 cal Booger

            ” ‘No doubt, many folks in government have used signal, but Biden‘s administration specifically ordered Government officials not to use signal or other such apps for sensitive information.

            Perhaps you would care to read this yourself from a Fox News article:

            “A Department of Defense memo from 2023 under the Biden administration detailed that while Signal was approved for some use by government officials, they could not use the platform to “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information.” CISA’s guidance related to Signal was released after the Department of Defense guidance.”

            As I’ve detailed before, we maintain secure messaging apps, specifically designed to protect the integrity of our sensitive communications regarding military actions, SIPRnet and JWICS are both secure messaging apps designed for use by our top level intelligence leadership, but the Trump administration is too ‘smart’ for that apparently.

            And you can claim that those attack plans are somehow not worthy of classification, but that just means you’re an idiot who doesn’t understand anything about military operations.
            Warning your adversary you’re coming two hours before the planes launch from the carrier gives them time to alert their air, defense assets, reposition targets and prepare a counterstrike. Surprise is the greatest weapon in our arsenal, and using unsecured civilian messaging apps allows sophisticated adversaries to read our mail before the planes ever launch, much less appear on target.

            Obviously, protecting the Trump administration’s ‘credibility’ is more important to you than protecting the lives of our troops.”

            Wait a second here…. you claimed that the use was ‘illegal’ snd they were going to be prosecuted and there was all this stuff going on to violate the law and this and that was classified and war plans etc…

            You went on and on with that stuff.

            Then I pointed out it was an approved app, that Biden approved it, that it was not illegal, that no classified or war plans, that the Biden admin used it too…. and what you do is come back with this nonsense rant and then try to act as if you know what should be classified or not without being the approved source as a ‘classifying authority’ to make such a decision when the very top ‘classifying authority’ in the country, The President of the United States, has said it was not classified or war plans, the CIA director has said it wasn’t classified or war plans, the admin involved said it wasn’t classified or war plans, it was information the media already had (oh yeah, ya didn’t know that did ya) and although maybe a little ‘sensitive’ that’s what encrypted comm apps are for and Signal was approved for such use where it wasn’t classified — and then claim this thing about caring for the lives of the troops yet you and the rest of your left wing idiots and the media are doing your best to blast this nothing-burger all over the internet trying to discredit the very people who are trying to save the country from the ruin your left-wing stupid heaped upon the country that got us into this mess so just how much do you care for those troops is a mystery because your efforts and participation in this mental illness left-wing crap the left-wing and Biden admin got us into did nothing but endanger the whole country and now you participate in an on-going actual violent left-wing insurrection trying to overthrow the country to install a marx -ist socia -list regeim and remove freedom and liberty.

            Then you want to tell me “protecting the Trump administration’s ‘credibility’ is more important to you than protecting the lives of our troops” when it was Biden that approved this app and had it installed on government devices and his admin used it too – so you can continue the lie that this was classified and war plans when even the Atlantic has basically said they lied about that.

            Yeah, you are truly mentally ill.

          4. Your wall of text is just more bullshit obfuscation.

            “Then I pointed out it was an approved app, that Biden approved it“

            You’re lying, I provided reporting showing that it was not an approved app for sensitive communications:

            “A Department of Defense memo from 2023 under the Biden administration detailed that while Signal was approved for some use by government officials, they could not use the platform to “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information.” CISA’s guidance related to Signal was released after the Department of Defense guidance.”

            “The President of the United States, has said it was not classified or war plans“

            Right, that’s just a ludicrous bullshit.

            The messages included weapons, timetable, and targeting information, right down to exactly when our aircraft would launch from the carriers, and when the first bombs would drop.

            After the attack, the chat participants discussed the BDA and which targets were successfully hit.

            Save your bullshit stories for your friends down at the Gloryhole peep show.

          5. .40 cal Booger

            Trump Administration Freezing Planned Parenthood Funding for Review, and That May Not Be All. > https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2025/03/26/trump-freezing-planned-parenthood-funding-for-review-n2654487

            “In addition to performing more abortions than any entity in the nation, the organization also provides hormone treatment under the guise of “gender-affirming care.” In October 2023, the Washington Free Beacon reported that a facility in New Jersey began the process of transitioning a teen with a whole host of mental health issues, after just a 30-minute consult, and without parental knowledge or consent.

            Further, while abortions and federal funding have gone up, and Planned Parenthood is looking to get into the “gender-affirming care” business, more legitimate medical services that the organization provides have gone down over the years.


            In addition to accusations about harvesting organs, the organization has also been accused of PPP loan and Medicaid fraud, as well as medical misinformation, rushed or no counseling for young women seeking abortions, misleading on abortion risks, and covering up for abusers when it comes to statutory rape and sex trafficking.
            …”

            https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1904589468201607520 > ”…Between 2019-2021, Planned Parenthood performed 1.11 million abortions while receiving approximately $1.78 billion in federal funding. This is an average of $592 million every year or over 40% of their revenue. …”

            Undercover Video of Top-Level Planned Parenthood ADMITTED to Selling Organs of Babies. > https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1904635832914292784

            President Trump says he’s going to look into Planned Parenthood Criminal Actions regarding Baby Organ Harvesting. > https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1904630830091108385

          6. .40 cal Booger

            Oh, and lets not forget about Biden admin using Signal to talk about and coordinate withdrawing from Afghanistan and the, essentially, ‘aided and planned’ murder of our 13 troops by-Biden-incompetence and intentionally arming the enemy. Talk about endangering our troops and national security …. but I guess that didn’t matter to you Myner49 and heck you even defended this ‘murder’ and Biden-incompetence, tried to justify it in your posts over at TTAG. And now here you are with your faux outrage to rant and troll your mental illness TDS and contribute to the violent mental illness left-wing insurrection by blasting out regurgitated left wing media lies about classified information and war plans because the left wing media tells you what to think and do and say.

          7. .40 cal Booger

            @Mynn49er

            Once again your whole rant is nonsense, but this in particular…

            “You’re lying, I provided reporting showing that it was not an approved app for sensitive communications:”

            as usual from you – this is yet another false in your steaming pile of nonsense BS:

            The Signal message app comes preinstalled on government devices. Biden authorized it. In December of 2024, CISA stated, “We strongly urge highly targeted individuals to immediately review and apply best practices provided in the guidance to protect mobile communications, including consistent use of end-to-end encryption.” And they named Signal as an example of such an end-to-end encrypted messaging app.

            From the Biden CISA > https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-12/guidance-mobile-communications-best-practices.pdf (on page 1):

            * “… implementing these best practices significantly enhances protection of sensitive communications …” ( under “Best Practices” on page 1)

            * (under “General Recommendations – Apply these best practices to your devices and online accounts.” on page 1) ” Adopt a free messaging application for secure communications that guarantees end-to-end encryption, such as Signal or similar apps. …”

            The Trump admin was using the approved app Signal, and it was approved for ‘sensitive communications’ and even the Biden admin approved it and had it loaded on government devices.

            The only thing you proved, once again, Mynn49er is that you are ignorant of the subject matter, a moron, are trolling and lying, don’t know what research means, don’t know what context means, are seriously lacking in your 4 year old child level of rant, and being fed what to think and do and say by the left-wing media.

          8. .40 cal Booger

            @Myner49

            Then this from your steaming pile of nonsense BS:

            “A Department of Defense memo from 2023 under the Biden administration detailed that while Signal was approved for some use by government officials, they could not use the platform to “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information.”

            This wasn’t “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information” > it was administration officials discussing policy effect and pertaining information and keeping track of what was going on – not to “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information” – there was exactly zero “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information” in the chat. In fact in their communications they cautioned about using ‘high side’ comms (meaning the classified systems) for that stuff and no one in the chat did any “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information”. Had you known what research and context means and had a basic understanding of the English language, you would have known this. They used an approved app, Signal, and no classified or war plans information was released as you have falsely claimed, no law was broken as you have falsely claimed, there was no “access, transmit, process non-public DoD information” as you falsely claim, and although the information might be called ‘sensitive’ the Signal app was approved for such ‘sensitive’ and you keep falsely trying to claim it was somehow ‘classified’ or ‘war plans’. But you…all you did was regurgitate what the left wing media told you, the left-wing media tells you what to think and do and say – you are a trolling moron.

          9. .40 cal Booger

            @Myner49

            So, go back to your faux ‘rage’ trolling and lies and false and disingenuous and ignorant BS rants, continue your mental illness TDS BS, and carry on with practicing your worship on your knees at the glory-hole of left wing media which tells you what to do and think and say.

          10. .40 cal Booger

            @Myner49

            So, go back to your faux ‘rage’ trolling and lies and false and disingenuous and ignorant BS rants, continue your mental illness TDS BS, and carry on with practicing your worship on your knees at the glory-hole of the left wing media religion which tells you what to do and think and say.

  4. The wide open mouth of the woman in the picture leads one to wonder:
    Is she hungry, is she horny, or is she screaming?
    Answer–she is screaming out of control due to her feebleness and stupidity(stupidity as in her inability to comprehend).
    These types of people cannot be reasoned with or even communicated with in any logical fashion due to their inability to intake verbalization. Oh, their sensory organs relative to hearing work, but their ability to intake is heavily flawed and attempts to communicate with them on any subject not on their list of approved topics is immediately discarded and at times even before any discussion begins. That is, at times they have closed their mind before discussions begin relative to certain subjects. They do this all the while talking about “common sense” or “common ground”. It quickly becomes evident that the very mentioning of these “common” areas is a lie for as time passes it becomes abundantly clear that they don’t really mean “common” unless the “common” meets their definition as stated in their agendas.

    Consider, if one is speaking with persons such as described above and these persons know they are speaking with a POTG, immediately their mind closes because of their disdain for POTG. Certain religious groups practice this technique of discarding another’s opinion even before they speak. I have experienced this with religions persons and persons who despise POTG. One might ask, how does POTG have a meaningful discussion with these folk? I have no idea and I hesitate to use the word evil, but this type of closed mined person appear to have no genuine concern for “we the people” unless we are counted amongst the population of their people. Talk is cheap. “Knowledge is not knowledge unless it moves one to action” (Socrates). These folk talk a lot but their actions speak louder and clearly relative to their true intentions.

    1. You can tell the difference in folks that received their education following the establishment of the DOE. People like miner were not educated. They were indoctrinated. Any degrees they have are not worth the paper they are printed on.

      Thank whatever gods you believe in that Trump is working to put down the DOE.

      1. SAFEupstateFML

        So …..ages 60 odd and under? Obviously got worse over time but it’s influenced things for quite a while.

        1. Yes. DOE has been a disaster for American education. I don’t recall the exact numbers but we spend more dollars per year per student than any other nation and we’re rated at 40th amongst industrial nations.

          A 4 year college degree today has less value than a high school diploma from the 50’s.

          1. SAFEupstateFML

            You are overestimating many current day degrees. But yes every decade or so seems to drop the value of a degree by a step.

          2. “Yes. DOE has been a disaster for American education. I don’t recall the exact numbers but we spend more dollars per year per student“

            The DOE does not set curriculum, hire teachers, or approve lesson plans, that’s all done on the local level by elected school boards, and appointed superintendents.

            The failing education system in the red states, such as Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, West Virginia, etc. is directly caused by local Republican mismanagement and corruption.

            Funds provided under DOE Title 1 provide grants to low income schools, but the money decisions are made locally.

            Funds provided by the DOE for school lunches, Headstart, etc. are controlled by local elected school boards.

            But that won’t be much of a concern for very long, Donald Trump has cut off the funding to low income schools in these red states because they need more workers, not educated citizens.

            And many of the red states are moving forward with replacing their undocumented workers with children, DeSantis in Florida is instituting a new policy so 14-year-old children will be authorized to work overnight shifts on school days, thus ensuring their failure to gain an education and trapping them in low paying menial jobs for their entire life.

            Billionaires don’t become billionaires by giving a shit about workers, they become billionaires by abusing workers.

          3. SAFEupstateFML

            Miner I will begin to care when the teachers union doesn’t ultimately dictate where education resources are directed. Guess which agency has been absolutely instrumental in ensuring the teachers union has been the enemy of our children.

          4. miner. It’s not just ‘red’ states. All states are failing education wise.

            How did your billionaires make their money? gates, bloomberg, zuckerberg, soros and so on?

          5. .40 cal. Very obvious that miner is ‘newly’ educated. He’s a walking talking condemnation of our current education system. And he’s not really showing our mental health system at its finest, either.

          6. “the teachers union doesn’t ultimately dictate where education resources are directed“

            Nope, school boards are elected by the local population in each county or school district, these elected school boards hire the superintendent for those school systems.
            The teachers unions have nothing to do with that, it is purely locally controlled by the voters who elect the school board.

            You folks need to get your story straight, some of you claim the federal DOE controls the schools, others claim the teachers union controls the schools, but both are wrong.

          7. SAFEupstateFML

            Nothing to get straight guidelines are set union is empowered and school boards good or bad have to play by what the union wants. May want to check the demographics and political leanings of the worst hit districts they rarely fit your narrative. With that said trannies have no business being pushed in school.

          8. “The DOE does not set curriculum”

            Not true. The DOE did it indirectly, and even more under Biden.

            The DOE has been a disaster for American education.

            They did it indirectly by setting funding and categories it can be used for, and, colluding with teachers unions and the schools listen to the teachers unions ultimately deriving from them the curriculum taught in schools that the DOE pushes as ‘guidelines’ – essentially, with DOE actions, dictating education curriculum methods, quotas, standards, and policy to the states.

            You really don’t understand this subject Mynner49r.

            And for example > Education Department Funded ‘Remixing Textbooks’ To Advance Pseudo-Science And Gender Theory > https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/27/education-department-funded-remixing-textbooks-to-advance-pseudo-science-and-gender-theory/

            “Open the Books has released a snapshot of a forthcoming, more exhaustive report on waste, fraud, and abuse from the Department of Education. The millions spent on indoctrinating children show that the department has not just been a place where bureaucrats dictate education to states from an ivory tower or collude with teachers unions to the detriment of American students and families, but more malevolently, it’s been a money laundering scheme for Democrats to fund far-left social theories to fundamentally destroy American family and civil life.
            …”

    2. .40 cal Booger

      “The wide open mouth of the woman in the picture leads one to wonder:”

      Its what Myner49 looks like when he gets on his knees to practice his religion worship at the glory hole of left-wing media..

    1. “SNW, can you please get rid of the troll Miner49er“

      So far, it seems the management of this forum believes the American ideal of a free exchange of ideas is best.

      They should be commended for their support of the American Way.

      1. .40 cal Booger

        “So far, it seems the management of this forum believes the American ideal of a free exchange of ideas is best.”

        and when you start doing that “American ideal of a free exchange of ideas” instead of trolling and expressing your mental illness and delusions and lies and false and disingenuous and using multiple names, let us know.

  5. Calling Little Davey “Hogg” implies strength and size…we call the scrawny punk “Piglet” which is more descriptive. Don’t wave those little fists, Davey, it’s just funny to watch…