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Oh no. A prominent media darling gun control operation which was largely AstroTurfed into existence by shady “progressive” operatives working behind the scenes in 2018 has laid off most of its staff due to what its new executive director calls “financial challenges.”
March For Our Lives was spun up, seemingly out of thin air, in the days after the shooting at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in February of 2018. While the story the media told was that MFOL was the result of a bunch of plucky Parkland survivors who wanted to do something and decided it was time to work for “change,” the reality was the entire operation was the creation of experienced far-left pros from the non-profit, academic, and entertainment industries.
The compliantly gullible media marveled at how a bunch of poor, heartbroken high school kids managed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps after a tragedy to organize a massive national protest movement in only five weeks. The real story, however, was a little more…complicated.
March For Our Lives was just a convenient front for lefty anti-gun movers and shakers who went to work and pulled in millions of dollars in donations when they saw an opportunity after the Parkland shooting to ram though gun control legislation, all while hiding behind a few willing, telegenic high school kids.
MFOL wasn’t the product of a bunch of students getting together in a local barn and deciding to put on a gun control rally. In reality, it was . . .
…bankrolled almost entirely by large donations in excess of $100,000. The group reported $17,879,150 in contributions and grants over the course of 2018, its first year of operations. Ninety-five percent of those contributions came from 36 donations between $100,000 and $3,504,717—a grand total of $16,922,331.
And how was all of that cash used?
The group’s spending went primarily toward its March 24, 2018, march on Washington, D.C., which garnered several hundred thousand attendees and featured speakers pushing for new gun bans and magazine limits. The event cemented March For Our Lives as one of the most prominent and radical gun-control groups in the country. The group has since called for confiscating up to 117 million firearms from Americans as part of its highly publicized “A Peace Plan for a Safer America.”
Fortunately, none of that materialized on a federal level, but some states passed red flag laws and bans on gun sales to adults under 21 years of age.
Like a cockroach that’s hard to kill, March For Our Lives lived on after that big Washington march, continuing to hoover up donations from civilian disarmament supporters, lefty foundations, and other “progressive” anti-gun organizations. But their funding has steadily declined in recent years according to The 19th News and the results of the November elections hit them hard . . .
Democratic donors have significantly pulled back funding for both Democratic candidates and progressive organizations in the wake of Republican Donald Trump’s triumph in the 2024 presidential election. According to tax filings, in 2023, the group spent $1.75 million, more than the $1.42 million it brought in that year, almost all from donations. March for Our Lives declined to share financial information for the 2024 fiscal year.
Steven Gutowski of The Reload dug a little deeper into MFOL’s declining revenues.
…public records show fundraising at its two non-profit entities has declined dramatically in recent years. Its non-political foundation went from revenues of $2.2 million in 2022 to $1.4 million in 2023, putting it more than $300,000 in the red. Its political advocacy arm went from $7 million in 2022 to under $3.5 million the following year. It ran a deficit both years, and neither was anywhere close to the $18.6 million it first raised in 2018.
Ouch.
As a result of those huge funding declines, MFOL laid off 13 of their 16 employees last week after their executive director quit. Their new ED is one of those Parkland kids, 24-year-old Jaclyn Corin. She’s putting on a brave face, vowing to fight on while making sure to perpetuate the operation’s founding myth . . .
Corin said that since its founding in 2018 following the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, March for Our Lives has grown in its scope.
“While these efforts were important, we ultimately took on more than our resources could sustain over the long term — and we take responsibility for that,” Corin said. “Now, we are making an intentional effort to double down where we are most effective: mobilizing young people to hold their leaders accountable for failing to address the number one killer of kids.”
Corin said March for Our Lives is primed to return to the sense of “urgency” felt when its founders first created the group on the floor of one member’s living room floor.
Corin has obviously been well-coached in regurgitating gun control speak.
“We hope to remind people of the insanity of the existence of this issue in this country and then give them the tools for how to actually make a change in their communities.”
Good luck with that.
…give them the tools for how to actually make a change in their communities.
They finally discovered how criminal justice and culture work? Nah. They’ll just try to sign up kids to be Democrats. It all comes back to power for The Party.
Amazing what happens when all the federal slush funds to various left wing NGO’s (who then pass the $$$$ around to groups like this) gets stopped . . . .
Pretty good evidence that the whole thing was just another Astroturfed snow job.
More Murderers Leave the Country, Democrats Probably Not Okay. (or…alternate title “Trump says ‘get bent judges’
)
“Secretary of State Marco Rubio took to X on Monday morning to announce that the United States had deported 17 more violent Tren de Aragua and MS-13 gang members. Their destination? El Salvador, of course.
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Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele also confirmed the information on X, stating that all ‘All individuals are confirmed murderers and high-profile offenders, including six child rapists.’ As he does, he included a pretty cool video of their arrival at El Salvador’s infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, aka the Terrorism Confinement Center or CECOT.
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I can just hear Democrats screaming about judges’ orders as we speak. I’ve never seen a group of people so hell-bent and determined to defend some of the most evil people on the planet. …
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https://pjmedia.com/sarah-anderson/2025/03/31/more-murderers-leave-the-country-democrats-not-okay-n4938444
And the guy probably voted ‘most likely to be a mentally ill idiot and looser’ by his high school class: ‘still in the closet’ Tampon ‘stolen valor’ ‘i’m a marx -ist social- ist’ Tim Walz – Tells Elon He’ll Stop Wishing for Tesla Failure If Elon Stops Saving Social Security.
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/03/31/tim-walz-elon-musk-deal-tesla-social-security-n2410734
What the DOGErs Keep Finding at Social Security Explains the Progressive Spasms.
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/03/31/what-the-dogers-keep-finding-at-social-security-explains-the-progressive-spasms-n3801328
Musk and Gracias’ Mind-Blowing Revelations on Social Security, Illegal Immigration, and Voting.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2025/03/31/musk-and-gracias-remarks-social-security-in-wisconsin-n2187313
Well stopping that will probably offset a lot of demand on goods facing tariffs let alone housing costs. Cool, now about these fake voters that likely gave the NY governor race to Hochul…….
Well, now that you bring up Hochul, shes busy taking away medicare from people who actually qualify for it and need it so she can send billions to her donors; Hochul’s Corrupt Medicaid ‘Reforms’ Send Billions to Her Donor.
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/03/31/hochuls-corrupt-medicaid-reforms-send-billions-to-her-donor-n3801327
Are enough people of New York tired of loosing yet? If you were you would have already deposed Hochul by making sure she didn’t get voted back into office… but probably not, ’cause for some reason they continue to let Hochul feed them her own special recipe of ‘sh1t pie’: Kathy Hochul Celebrates Trans Visibility on the Last Day of Women’s History Month With DOOZY of a Pic.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/03/31/kathy-hochul-trans-day-of-visibility-statue-of-liberty-n2410751
How sad that so many people do not understand that every noncitizen legal resident who works in America can obtain a Social Security number.
When the poorly educated discover that noncitizens can obtain an SSN for work purposes, they think they’ve discovered some massive fraud.
I guess they don’t realize that it would actually be illegal for them to work without a valid Social Security number.
“Non-Citizens:
Work Authorization: Non-citizens who have been granted permission to work in the US by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) are eligible for an SSN. This includes lawful permanent residents (LPRs), asylees, refugees, and those with certain temporary non-immigrant statuses that allow for work authorization.
Valid Non-Work Reason: Non-citizens who do not have work authorization from DHS may still be eligible for an SSN if they have a valid non-work reason for needing one.
Required Documentation:
When applying for an SSN, you’ll need to provide documents to prove your age, identity, and either US citizenship or lawful, work-authorized immigration status.”
Well at least now you are agreeing that our education system is broken, miner. Trump has taken the first step in fixing it. Now maybe you will realize that your degrees are not worth the paper they’re printed on.
How sad that Myner49er doesn’t understand that Musk and Gracias’ are talking about undocumented illegal aliens. undocumented illegal aliens have entered the country illegally and are not eligible for SSN’s.
“Musk and Gracias’ are talking about undocumented illegal aliens“
Really? I haven’t seen any documentation to support the claim you’ve just made.
So exactly which prosecutors office has filed charges? Exactly which grand jury has seen the evidence and considered an indictment?
You can see the number of SS#’s issued to supposedly legal noncitizens dramatically escalating every year of the Puppet Admin. At a minimum, it’s an intentional, unethical abuse of the asylum policy.
ANTONIO GRACIAS: Yes, we found some by sampling that actually did vote, and we have referred them to prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service already.
“Really? I haven’t seen any documentation to support the claim you’ve just made.”
See, that’s your problem. The information is available, in fact I posted links to it previously and you even replied to the post so eager to express your mental illness TDS that you didn’t see the very glaring and obvious.
“we have referred them to prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service“
That’s all you’ve got?
The statement of a non-governmental employee at a political rally?
So who’s the prosecutor?
Who’s being charged?
You know the trumpet administration would be crowing about the prosecution, speaking of the defendant by name.
Why hasn’t the White House press secretary made a formal announcement of an investigation, a prosecution?
Of course, they are all about using a 13 year-old cancer survivor in their public propaganda efforts, meanwhile cutting the funding for the very research projects that were instrumental in his survival:
“Trump honored a cancer survivor. The boy’s doctors now face his budget cuts.
President Donald Trump honored a child cancer survivor during his joint address to Congress. Medical school faculty who helped treat him are facing potentially devastating federal funding cuts.
Zachary Schermele
USA TODAY
A renowned medical school whose faculty helped treat a young cancer survivor honored this week by President Donald Trump is facing potentially devastating funding cuts because of the White House.”
ttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2025/03/08/trump-nih-cuts-baylor-college/81625680007/
In other words, you can’t refute it. All you can do is speculate. Cry harder.
DOGE volunteer and Valor CEO Antonio Gracias joins ‘Fox & Friends’ to discuss the government agency’s Social Security findings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnNVo8pOE74
Trump Should Release The Audio From Robert Hur’s Interview With Joe Biden.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/04/02/trump-should-release-the-audio-from-robert-hurs-interview-with-joe-biden/
“Of course, they are all about using a 13 year-old cancer survivor in their public propaganda efforts, meanwhile cutting the funding for the very research projects that were instrumental in his surviva”
False.
No actual cancer research is being defunded.
“When applying for an SSN, you’ll need to provide documents to prove your age, identity, and either US citizenship or lawful, work-authorized immigration status.””
False – not for illegal aliens:
How illegal aliens got SS #’s under Biden:
After entering illegally (which made them illegal entry – a crime) they simply walked up to a border patrol officer to say they wanted to stay. Under the Biden-Harris policy, the illegal alien would be charged with a minor administrative offense, like a parking ticket, then they were released with a notice to appear before an immigration judge. The average wait to see an immigration judge is six years.
After they were released, an NGO would file a I-765 for them, it’s the work authorization form, and then get them settled in ‘sanctuary’ areas. The I-765 asks if you have a SSN, or if you would like to be issued a SSN and a Social Security card – and of course this box was checked. The card was mailed or dropped off at a SS office, and soon they would receive a 766 card – also called a work authorization card and a brand new Social Security Card and number. No proof of age, no proof of identity, no work-authorized immigration status proof required to get the SSN. With the SSN and work authorization card the NGO gets them a drivers license in some state, so now they have and official ‘state government’ issued ID.
The second way, was an NGO would get stolen social security numbers from sellers who had them. With the SSN, they apply for and get the illegal alien work-authorized immigration status – with that they can get a drivers license in some state, so now they have and official ‘state government’ issued ID. With this they can apply for various benefits programs and get benefits from those – they don’t actually have to work.
Now how about the ones who did work:
Let’s say you are an American citizen who started working at 16 and retired at 67. You’ve been paying into Social Security with every paycheck for 51 years. Non-citizens can draw full Social Security benefits after working 40 quarters – that is 10 years.
But now there are millions of illegal aliens with SSN’s they were not entitled to have, and procured by fraudulent means, and only have to work (if they work) 10 years to get full social security benefits to which they are not legally entitled because they entered the country illegally and got their SS#’s by fraud. If not stopped, it means millions of people will get full SS benefits without contributing decades of income to the fund.
All this together:
You don’t have to be a math whiz to know this is not sustainable. Its fraud, and its literally stealing tax payer dollars. Millions of illegal aliens getting benefits they are not suppose to have – and our tax dollars are paying for it.
Trump and DOGE are trying to stop it. These are the ‘undocumented aliens’ I refer to in another post. Not documented because they entered the country illegally and used fraud.
But the reason the Democrats and left-wingers are upset over it being stopped is because of this: This was started by the Biden-Harris tyranny with a plan to change the voting demographics to, as has already been exposed, change the country to essentially a ‘one-party state’, the Democrat party, by creating a new ‘slave class’ composed of illegal aliens to do the work and loyal to the Democrat party. — or the alternate title is a page from the Marx -ist Socia -list manual on “how to take over of a country from within by subverting its culture and citizens’. The next part of the plan was to get these ‘undocumented aliens’ recognized as citizens so they could vote in federal elections, and Myner49er if you had been following along with the rest of the world and not stuck in your own little mind-bubble-of-left-wing-delusion-mental-illness you would find out that Democrat politicians were trying to do just that. They have already been voting in local elections in some areas to keep democrats in office, and there have been discoveries that some voted in the election in Nov 2024.
Luckily, the plan failed, for now at least, when Kamala did not get elected.
Left-Wing Organizations Opposing The SAVE Act Received More Than $150 Million From Soros Groups.
“…
On March 28, the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights (LCCHR) released a letter directed at members of Congress, asking them to oppose the GOP-sponsored SAVE Act, which aims to close existing loopholes in federal law that foreign nationals could exploit to register and cast ballots in U.S. elections. …
…”
https://thefederalist.com/2025/04/03/left-wing-organizations-opposing-the-save-act-received-more-than-150-million-from-soros-groups-analysis/
“I can just hear Democrats screaming about judges’ orders as we speak. I’ve never seen a group of people so hell-bent and determined to defend some of the most evil people on the planet. …”
Wonder why democrats in droves have not joined the fight against corruption and waste in government!
Should not all good citizens, regardless of party affiliation or lack thereof, be against corruption and waste in government?
“a bunch of plucky Parkland survivors who wanted to do something and decided it was time to work for “change,”
How about looking at facts for a “change”.
How about being honest about your real agenda for a “change”.
How about holding criminals accountable for a “change”.
How about stopping the attack on good citizens for a “change”.
How about working to help those less able to help themselves to help themselves for a “change”.
MFOL was founded on the principle of “doing something”.
How about doing something “positive” for a “change”?
How about standing strong with good citizens for a “change”.
“Trump administration concedes Maryland father from El Salvador was mistakenly deported and sent to mega prison
By Priscilla Alvarez, CNN
Published 12:46 AM EDT, Tue April 1, 2025“
So.. Trump admin makes a mistake while trying to undo the intentional actions of Biden-Harris to let thousands of illegal alien criminals, murderers, human traffickers, rapist, and child predators roam around the country.
President Trump’s mistake pales in comparison to Brian Malinowski and Patrick “Tate” Adamiak cases.
It’s interesting, and very telling, that the propagandist media headlines describe an MS-13 gang member as a “Maryland father” or “Maryland man.” Why would they do that? His gang ties were confirmed in a 2019 court hearing. If you were truly seeking asylum from El Salvador, are there any other countries before you reach the USA? It was another person looking to take advantage of our intentionally lax asylum laws which are used to import the world’s poor.
Great news! Thanks to new leadership, El Salvador is now very safe. All of the “asylum seekers” from there can go back now.
“His gang ties were confirmed in a 2019 court hearing“
That’s an interesting claim, are you able to back it up with a source or citation?
You know, the White House press secretary was questioned about this recently, she could provide no specific information as to why they claimed he was a “MS 13 ring leader”.
I said gang ties. You’re saying ring leader. Those are two different things. It’s in the court documents. The judge didn’t grant him amnesty for that reason.
“His gang ties were confirmed in a 2019 court hearing“
Confirmed?
“Garcia was ordered to be deported in 2019. During a court hearing on his case, ICE stated a confidential informant had alleged he was a member of the deadly MS-13 gang. However, a judge granted his asylum request.
He was denied bond after is detention in 2019. The 2019 Bond Memorandum that the government cites as proof of his MS-13 status relied on two pieces of evidence: a record of deportable/inadmissible alien from ICE and a gang field interview sheet from the Prince George’s County Police Department”
Based on a field interview that an LEO reported?
That’s the evidence, only a statement reported by another individual?
You understand, the judge had to find that as hearsay, inadmissible, that’s why the judge blocked the deportation order.
So not one arrest or charge, much less conviction for this individual, just hearsay evidence reported from a field interview…
It seems you, like Donald Trump, are just fine with termination of the constitution’s protections.
Wrong. He was not granted asylum. The court determined that he was a dangerous individual, therefore he didn’t get asylum. He only brought up his story of a gang being after him after he had already lost his appeal. He provided no evidence for that. The only thing they granted him was not sending him back to El Salvador. That’s it. He should have been deported immediately after that, although he would have come right back due to the Puppet’s open borders that you bet against happening. You still owe me money for losing that bet btw.
He was not a citizen. He was not even a legal resident. He was an illegal alien. He had no constitutional protections even though we gave him many days in court to plead his case. End of story. Cry more over criminals taking advantage of our country. Please keep it up.
“Wrong. He was not granted asylum.”
I never said the judge granted him asylum, that’s just your bullshit lying again.
Actually, my statement was:
“the judge blocked the deportation order.“
From CBS News:
“His lawyers allege this happened without any legal proceeding and in violation of the “withholding of removal” order issued by an immigration judge in 2019.“
ttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.11.3.pdf
In fact, the DOJ has already admitted they made an error:
“Trump ICE official admits “administrative error” in deporting man to El Salvador prison
By Jacob Rosen, Camilo Montoya-Galvez
Updated on: April 1, 2025 / 8:05 PM EDT / CBS News”
So help me to understand why this gentleman was not afforded his due process under the United States Constitution, how was he deported without a hearing?
Do you think it is constitutional for a government bureaucrat to just snatch people off the street and send them to a foreign prison without any sort of legal proceedings?
Miner said: I never said the judge granted him asylum, that’s just your bullshit lying again.
Miner’s verbatim comment above that I was replying to: However, a judge granted his asylum request.
Miner, you do realize that we can read your previous comments, right? Are you lying or are you stupid? Or are you a stupid liar?
Miner said: So help me to understand why this gentleman was not afforded his due process under the United States Constitution, how was he deported without a hearing?
It has already been explained. He had multiple hearings. You can look for yourself and see that: 1) he was denied asylum, 2) he is NOT a legal citizen, 3) he is NOT a legal resident, 4) the judge granted him protected status from being deported specifically to El Salvador for reasons already mentioned. The mistake was sending him to El Salvador. It was NOT a mistake to deport him.
The media is pretending like the mistake was randomly snatching up some “Maryland Father” who was lawfully minding his own business. They mislead people because suckers like you fall for it everyday. He was an illegal alien. That means we get to deport him. Did I speak slowly enough for you this time?
Dude, it seems you were unfamiliar with the use of quotation marks to indicate a quote from a new story.
Perhaps you would care to read the news story yourself, it appears in several reputable outlets, including News nation, available here:
ttps://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/trump-administration-el-salvador-dad-deported-error/amp/
I’m sorry if you disagree with the recording available publicly, but you must learn the quotation marks differentiate a quote from my comments.
And in any case, the practical effect is the same, the judge ruled that he could not be deported and yet the Trump administration unlawfully and unconstitutionally deported him without a hearing.
Miner, you’re the one that put that quote in your comment. I was responding to your comment which had that quote. Then, you told me I was making it up. You really are dense.
Mynnr49 got played for the mentally ill fool he is once again: The Atlantic Got Caught Lying Again. This Time on a Deportation Fake News Sob Story.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/04/01/the-atlantic-got-caught-lying-again-this-time-on-a-deportation-fake-news-sob-story-n2654804
The sad thing is that Miner wants to be played. He begs for it. The truth is too scary to confront. The *really* sad part is that there are a lot of people exactly like that.
That guy was not a legal resident. He should have been deported immediately after his hearing, although he would have walked back through our open borders. He just wasn’t supposed to be deported to El Salvador. The only reason for that was some unverified testimony about a specific gang targeting a specific business many years ago. That business is long gone, and that gang has been decimated thanks to new leadership in the country. His reasons for not being deported to that specific country are no longer valid, if they ever were.
Pretty much why my default response to any opposition to mass deportation is don’t care they don’t belong here taking resources from our own poor.
“He should have been deported immediately after his hearing“
Are you incapable of actually reading the record:
“In 2019 he received a form of protected legal status known as “withholding of removal” from a U.S. immigration judge who found he would likely be targeted by gangs if deported back.”
See, this is how we all know that you are a fascist, you are all too willing to ignore the due process and equal justice under the law provisions of the United States Constition.
It was people like you who blocked the St. Louis from docking in a United States port in 1939.
he’s a far left wing mentally ill moron. He doesn’t know how to do research, doesn’t know what context means, can’t read and comprehend past 3rd grade level, and is confirmation biased. He’s the ideal fool for the left wing media.
“He should have been deported immediately after his hearing“
Correct. You don’t understand because you don’t want to understand. He was ALWAYS an illegal alien. That was never questioned! The order was to not send him to El Salvador when he got deported. Are you really this dense? I used to think you just lied about everything. I still don’t think you’re an honest person, but you’re definitely dense as well. What a combo.
You’re the one who was played by the propaganda, from the link you posted above:
“Court filings show Abrego Garcia came to the United States at age 16 in 2011 after fleeing gang threats in his native El Salvador. In 2019 he received a form of protected legal status known as “withholding of removal” from a U.S. immigration judge who found he would likely be targeted by gangs if deported back.”
Wait a minute, what’s that say:
“In 2019 he received a form of protected legal status known as “withholding of removal” from a U.S. immigration judge“
So his presence in the country had been authorized by an immigration judge and he was not breaking any laws, got it.
“Garcia, who is married to a U.S. citizen and has a 5-year-old disabled child who is also a U.S. citizen, has no criminal record in the United States, according to his attorney. The Trump administration does not claim he has a criminal record, but called him a “danger to the community” and an active member of MS-13, the Salvadoran gang that Trump has declared a Foreign Terrorist Organization.”
What? So no criminal record, just some bureaucrat declares him a danger:
“The Trump administration does not claim he has a criminal record, but called him a “danger to the community”
So he was in the country legally, has no criminal record and yet a bureaucrat, without any due process whatsoever, has him snatched off the street by a gang of armed men and sent to a foreign prison.
Smells like fascism to me.
“So he was in the country legally…”
Incorrect. You’re misunderstanding the protected status. See above.
No misunderstanding, the text I quoted is unequivocal:
In 2019 he received a form of protected legal status known as “withholding of removal” from a U.S. immigration judge who found he would likely be targeted by gangs if deported back.”
It’s unfortunate that you seem not to grasp the authority granted to the judicial branch by the United States Constitution.
Your quote: “…a U.S. immigration judge who found he would likely be targeted by gangs if deported back.”
If deported back to where? France? He didn’t say, “if deported.” He said, “if deported back.” What do you think that means? Try to use all of your available brain power, and get back to me with your answer.
“What do you think that means?“
It doesn’t matter what I think, the judge issued his order:
“In 2019 he received a form of protected legal status known as “withholding of removal” from a U.S. immigration judge“
The plain text is prettyclear:
“a form of protected legal status known as “withholding of removal”
The judge said no removal, but the DOJ violated the judges order, seized him off the street and removed him against the court order.
ttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.11.3.pdf
“It doesn’t matter what I think…”
You, for once, are correct Myner49, it doesn’t matter what you think.
We’ve seen what you think, and what you think is the ‘think’ that let violent horrible criminals into the country, monsters. Yet still in your ‘think’ you try to protect them. Yeah, what you think doesn’t matter, your opinion on it doesn’t matter, your writings in defense of them doesn’t matter, you don’t matter.
What does matter is that someone is trying to fix the problem your type of ‘think’ caused.
“The judge said no removal”
No, he did not. He said no removal SPECIFICALLY to El Salvador (that was the answer). He still could have been removed to a third country. Furthermore, that is not a forever status. When the situation changes, they can lose that protection status as well. The situation HAS changed. However, there is a procedure for doing that. That was the screw up. He could have been deported to anywhere other than El Salvador. It wasn’t that he was a legal resident or citizen that accidentally got picked up like the media is pretending to fool suckers like you.
He admitted in court that he entered the country illegally. He applied for asylum. He was denied due to his documented MS-13 gang ties. He appealed. He lost. He was scheduled to be deported back to El Salvador. Only then did he come up with this unverified story about some other gang harassing his parents’ business. That got him Withholding Of Removal (WOR) protection. That meant he could not be sent back to a specific country (El Salvador) unless conditions changed. That particular business is gone, and that particular gang has been decimated by new leadership in El Salvador. (The original situation has changed).
This is the last time I try to explain this to someone with an obvious learning disability. If you still don’t understand, that’s your problem.
This is from a pro-asylum site:
In other words, anyone who has WOR or CAT has been ordered deported from the U.S. They just cannot be sent back to the specific country where they fear harm.
In the past, a grant of WOR or CAT basically meant you could stay in the U.S. indefinitely, since no other countries were willing to accept non-citizens on a permanent basis, and so there was nowhere for the U.S. to send WOR and CAT grantees.
You’re welcome to read the law regarding WOR yourself. Stop depending on deceptive media outlets that you look to for your bias confirmation.
Do you understand now? He couldn’t get asylum, so his lawyer advised him to try to get WOR. In that past, that meant he could stay indefinitely. It was a loophole. If his story was true, he would have said it from the beginning during his asylum application. He’s a liar, just like you. No sympathy.
Media Lie About Deported ‘Maryland Father’s’ Legal Status, Downplay His Gang Ties.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/04/02/media-lie-about-deported-maryland-fathers-legal-status-downplay-his-gang-ties/
“…
…judge ordered Abrego Garcia not to be sent back to “his home country” — but that’s very different that having “protected legal status…
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Abrego Garcia illegally crossed the border in 2011 and was ‘detained in March 2019 and charged with removability.’ He was denied bond in 2019 after an immigration judge concluded that evidence ‘show[ed] [Abrego Garcia] is a verified member of MS-13’ and that Abrego Garcia did not prove ‘that his release from custody would not pose a danger to others.’
The judge also found that Abrego Garcia was a flight risk, noting he had a ‘history of failing to appear for proceedings pertaining to his traffic violations.’ As pointed out by Will Chamberlain, senior counsel at the Article 3 Project, the Board of Immigration Appeals dismissed Abrego Garcia’s appeal and ‘affirmed the immigration judge’s findings on dangerousness.’
Six months later, Abrego Garcia filed a new claim, this time for asylum, ‘withholding of removal to El Salvador,’ and ‘protection under Article 3 of the Convention against Torture,’ Chamberlain explained in a post. Notably, Abrego Garcia had every reason to want to stay in the United States: He had two brothers who were permanent residents, his fiancée was a citizen, and he was helping her raise her two children. Further, he and his fiancée also had a child together.
‘And so, at this hearing applying for asylum, he testifies that he fears returning to El Salvador because the 18th street gang ‘was targeting him and threatening him with death because of his family’s pupusa business,’ Chamberlain pointed out. Despite claiming that he feared the gang would kill him, Abrego Garcia ‘never reported anything to the police,’ according to Chamberlain, and later he still asserted he was afraid of being killed despite his family having ended the pupusa business.
The judge ‘found Abrego Garcia’s account ‘credible,’ Chamberlain explained, but was unable to grant Abrego Garcia’s asylum claim because the law stipulates that asylum seekers must prove that their ‘application has been filed within one year after the date of the alien’s arrival’ in the country.
However, Abrego Garcia was granted a withholding of removal to El Salvador. But that’s not the same as a legal right to stay in the United States – it just means that he has a legal right not to be removed to one specific country. As Chamberlain explained, ‘Any third country would be sufficient.’
Whether Abrego Garcia shouldn’t have been deported specifically to El Salvador doesn’t change the fact that he nonetheless should have been removed from this country years ago. In fact, the only real scandal here is that he was able to stay for as long as he did.
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but… the left wing media lied, and thus Myner49 lied and continues to lie like he always does because he is a typical mentally ill left wing moron who gets fed what to think do and say by the left wing media,… and to point this out, that which Myner49 started trolling with and continues to try to defend despite evidence to the contrary, further from the above link:
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But the propaganda press is playing fast and loose with the truth to serve its own agenda. The New York Times likewise put out inaccurate and deliberately misleading coverage. The Times’ Ali Watkins and Alan Feuer wrote that Abrego Garcia ‘was in the U.S. legally’ multiple times throughout the story. They also falsely stated he was living ‘under protected legal status since October 2019.’
NBC News’ Patrick Smith and Gary Grumbach wrote that Abrego Garcia ‘is a legal resident protected by a 2019 court order that prevented him from being sent back to his home country.’
CNN described Abrego Garcia as a ‘Maryland father with protected legal status.’ ABC News described him as a ‘Maryland man with protected legal status.’
The distortion of the facts isn’t a mere accident. The propaganda press has failed to fearmonger Americans into opposing Trump’s mass deportations thus far. …
Abrego Garcia was in fact ordered not to be deported to El Salvador, that much is true. But what the propaganda press failed to do was differentiate between a withholding order that prevented him from being sent to a single country and protected status. They chose to paint him as a ‘legal’ immigrant who was supposed to be shielded from deportation because of some ‘status’ he supposedly had before the Trump administration came in and ripped this ‘Maryland father’ away from his family.
The media’s presentation is false. But obfuscating the fact — or just flat out lying about the facts — isn’t out of character for the Pravda press.
What better way for the media to shift public opinion on a popular Trump policy than to run cover for an illegal alien (who is likely part of a gang) and lie about the facts in order to bolster their anti-Trump hysteria?
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@Dude:
“anyone who has WOR or CAT has been ordered deported from the U.S. They just cannot be sent back to the specific country where they fear harm.”
You are correct. A WOR is basically a deportation order by another name, just applied differently stopping short of designating a specific deportation country.
The Garcia’ WOR was not granting/giving legal permission to stay in the U.S. – he was never here legally under any sort of ‘protected’ status that allowed him to be in the U.S. legally, he entered the country illegally and stayed in the country illegally.
Basically; A WOR (Withholding of Removal) is a form of relief from deportation for non-citizens (i.e. illegal aliens, or others) back to the a specific ‘origin home’ country in which they fear ‘persecution’. It does not provide a legal ‘protected status’ to remain in the U.S., it is not ‘asylum’ nor does it provide a means to achieve permanent residency or citizenship. It is basically in effect “you can’t go back to your home country but you can’t stay here” form of deportation, and technically when its issued the person is in a ‘deportation’ status and its a ‘wait here until they find a country to deport you to’. Because of the lack of a specific ‘deportation country’ action this is sometimes falsely touted to be a type of protection that allows foreign nationals to remain in the U.S. while they face persecution in their home country. But it doesn’t actually do that – the ‘protection’ while still in the U.S. is not ‘permission to stay in the U.S.’ but rather just ‘protection’ against being deported back to the specific ‘origin home’ country in which they fear ‘persecution’.
@Myner49
“So his presence in the country had been authorized by an immigration judge and he was not breaking any laws, got it.”
100% False.
A “withholding of removal” is not an authorization to remain in the United States.
A WOR is basically a deportation order by another name, just applied differently stopping short of designating a specific deportation country.
The Garcia’ WOR was not granting/giving legal permission to stay in the U.S. – he was never here legally under any sort of ‘protected’ status that allowed him to be in the U.S. legally, he entered the country illegally and stayed in the country illegally.
He illegally crossed the border in 2011
Basically; A WOR (Withholding of Removal) is a form of relief from deportation for non-citizens (i.e. illegal aliens, or others) back to the a specific ‘origin home’ country in which they fear ‘persecution’. It does not provide a legal ‘protected status’ to remain in the U.S., it is not ‘asylum’ nor does it provide a means to achieve permanent residency or citizenship. It is basically in effect “you can’t go back to your home country but you can’t stay here” form of deportation, and technically when its issued the person is in a ‘deportation’ status and its a ‘wait here until they find a country to deport you to’. Because of the lack of a specific ‘deportation country’ action this is sometimes falsely touted to be a type of protection that allows foreign nationals to remain in the U.S. while they face persecution in their home country. But it doesn’t actually do that – the ‘protection’ while still in the U.S. is not ‘permission to stay in the U.S.’ but rather just ‘protection’ against being deported back to the specific ‘origin home’ country in which they fear ‘persecution’.
His WOR was issued in 2019.
“It’s unfortunate that you seem not to grasp the authority granted to the judicial branch by the United States Constitution.”
yes, it is unfortunate Myner49 that you seem not to grasp the authority granted to the judicial branch by the United States Constitution.
As I said before, it doesn’t matter what I think, the courts will decide because that’s what the United States Constitution decrees.
Every person in the United States has the right ‘to petition the government for a redress of grievances’, and the court has made a decision and entered an order:
“Judge rules US must return man deported to El Salvador in ‘error’
Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported last month along with hundreds of alleged gang members
Article information
Author, Nadine Yousif and Kayla Epstein
Role, BBC News
4 April 2025
A federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to return a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported to a prison in El Salvador.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was expelled last month along with hundreds of alleged gang members, must be returned to the US by no later than Monday, US District Judge Paula Xinis ordered.
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said in a recent court filing that deporting Mr Garcia was an “administrative error”. An immigration judge granted him legal protection from deportation in 2019.“
Technically it was a screw up. I’m fine with bringing him back. Then we can deport him the proper way, along with the other illegals. We should follow the rules, unlike the traitors that invited millions in illegally.
“Technically it was a screw up“
Interesting, so constitutional protections are a ‘technicality’ for you.
You should really consider the deep ramifications of what happened in this case
The police state said they had secret testimony against this man, testimony that he was not allowed to challenge.
So the violation included failing to allow him to confront his accuser in open court, failure to provide due process with an open hearing before he was deported and now the police state claims he can’t be retrieved from the foreign prison they sent him to.
Yep, smells just like fascism to me.
Who will protest when they snatch you off the street and send you to a prison 5000 miles from home?
“As I said before, it doesn’t matter what I think, the courts will decide because that’s what the United States Constitution decrees.
Every person in the United States has the right ‘to petition the government for a redress of grievances’, and the court has made a decision and entered an order:
“Judge rules US must return man deported to El Salvador in ‘error’”
and as has been pointed out – it doesn’t matter what you think.
1. Garcia already had an order of deportation. The judge in his WOR case ordered him removed, but just that he could not be sent back to El Salvador. But as the Supreme Court has made clear, removal orders and withholding orders are “distinct” [Johnson v. Guzman Chavez, 594 U.S. 523, 539 (2021)]. And just as important, a withholding order does not “affect the validity of the underlying removal order.” Id. at 540. The validity of the underlying removal order doesn’t negate actually being sent back to the country in which one fears persecution and for which the WOR was issued.
3. The WOR process restriction on deportation country – doesn’t apply to members of designated terrorist organizations.
4. MS-13 was designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization in February (90 Fed. Reg. at 10030–31) prior Garcias arrest and deportation. Garcia had been previously given due process, was adjudicated a member of MS-13 (to which he also confessed previously), entered the country illegally (to which he confessed previously, and still upon current apprehension self-declared he is a member of MS-13). He is a terrorist, illegally in the country. Although it may have been a mistake to overlook the WOR restriction it would have made no difference even if it had been considered – he could have still been deported back to El Salvador to be confined at CECOT because he is a terrorist.
5. Plaintiffs have not come close to showing that Abrego Garcia will likely be tortured or killed in CECOT. In fact, in this whole thing from the very first time in court when he entered the country illegally – not one time has Garcia or any lawyer he had presented any substantiation of his claims that he would face persecution or death if sent back to El Salvador. The judge in the WOR case found the excuse ‘creditable’ not because it was substantiated but because its deemed ”creditable’ in deportation law if you swear it under oath meaning one can lie – and ya know, MS-13 members being criminals, well, what a shocker that Garcia probably lied ’cause his story upon examination had some big holes in the plot-line he fed the court.
6. See Kiyemba v. Obama, 561 F.3d 509, 515 (D.C. Cir. 2009) (“[S]eparation of powers principles . . . preclude the courts from second-guessing the Executive’s assessment of the likelihood a detainee will be tortured by a foreign sovereign.”). El Salvador is a signatory to both the Convention Against Torture and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.” Bishop Decl., ECF No. 10-3, ¶ 32. The United States has ensured that removed aliens will not be tortured, and Defendants would not have removed any alien to El Salvador for detention in CECOT if it believed that doing so would violate the United States’ obligations under the Convention.
Garcia is right where he needs to be, and overall the deportation was executed legally – the judge here overstepped his authority in ordering him returned to the U.S.
Who will protest when they snatch you off the street and send you to a prison 5000 miles from home?
Serious question: are you retarded? I am NOT an illegal alien. I am in this country LEGALLY. The criminal, lying MS-13 gang member that you’re in love with is here ILLEGALLY. He has had a deportation order for years. Who cares about the Constitution again? Please remind me. See .40 cal’s comment for the rest of the recap for the 100th time.
Oh, and that protection order is null and void when the circumstances change. As noted, the circumstances that gave him that protection order have changed. All they had to do was go through some more motions to avoid the technical screw up. No sympathy. Come here legally. It’s time to send a message to all future criminal aliens. That’s how you fix the problem Democrats have been promoting.
Imagine admitting in court that you entered the country illegally. Imagine having a deportation order for YEARS. Now imagine flagrantly ignoring the deportation order because you think you found a loophole, or a technicality if you will. This is no one’s fault but his. No more mister nice guy. Americans are sick and tired of being taken advantage of. People react to the incentive structure. Let illegals know they’re going to end up in prison. We need a law that never allows illegals to gain citizenship or ANY protected status. That’s what you call an incentive.
And to add to my post above, where I outlined 6 points…
AG Bondi Places DOJ Lawyer On Leave For Failing To Adequately Defend Admin In Deportation Case.
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‘The American people should know who this individual is. He’s not some American father as the mainstream media will make you believe, he’s actually a member of MS-13, and was involved in trafficking. …
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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/ag-bondi-places-doj-lawyer-on-leave-for-failing-to-adequately-defend-admin-in-deportation-case-cmc/
I was wondering why they said it was a mistake, then said they could legally deport him due to the terrorism label. How about this? Bring him back. He still has a deportation order. He just isn’t supposed to be sent back to that particular country. Give him ten days to leave the country on his own. If he violates that, then send him to Guantanamo. If he ever comes back, he immediately goes to Guantanamo. That seems fair and lawful to me. It also sends a message to other current and future illegals. Watch them self-deport. Problem solved.
Democrats are making and buying their own slaves from stupid or gullible or vulnerable people: Mom says daughter was “coaxed” into vandalizing a Tesla.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4z7LY4Z_jU
… There Are No Grassroots Efforts on the Left.
https://pjmedia.com/stephen-kruiser/2025/03/31/the-morning-briefing-your-friendly-reminder-that-there-are-no-grassroots-efforts-on-the-left-n4938453