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Does Collecting Firearms Really Make You a Likely Mass Shooter?

Officials with the Oakland County Sheriff’s Department, Rochester Hills Fire Department and other jurisdictions secure the scene of a shooting at the Brooklands Plaza Splash Pad, Saturday, June 15, 2024, in Rochester Hills, Mich. (Daniel Mears/Detroit News via AP)

On Saturday a shooting took place at a suburban Detroit water park called the Brooklands Plaza Splash Pad. A 42-year-old man with no prior criminal history opened fire, wounding nine people including two (an 8-year-old boy and a 39-year-old woman) who are still in critical condition. The shooter, Michael William Nash, then barricaded himself in his home and, after a standoff with police, committed suicide.

According to CBS News . . .

[Oakland County] Sheriff Michael Bouchard said Saturday evening that the gunman had no prior criminal history but apparently suffered privately from what the sheriff called “mental health challenges.”

David Riedman, who runs the often-debunked K-12 School Shooting Database, took the opportunity to note the shooter’s inventory of twelve — yes twelve — firearms.

He then concluded — without any evidence whatsoever — that, “Stockpiling weapons is a red flag that someone may be plotting a mass shooting.”

Leave aside the fact that Riedman just proclaimed that 12 guns — 11 of them standard rimfire and commonly-owned hunting long guns — constitutes a “stockpile.” Riedman has accused literally millions of law-abiding American gun owners of being suspect and a high risk to commit a mass shooting.

He wrote that,

There is a small cohort of high-risk gun hoarders. Just 3% of gun owners collectively own 133M firearms (about 1/3 of all civilian owned guns).

Three percent of gun owners is well over three million people, considering surveys show around 40% of all Americans own guns. His wildly generalized claim is also nonsense.

Most mass shootings aren’t carried out by people who own many guns, especially if you use the looser (and also debunked Gun Violence Archive) definition of what constitutes a mass shooting. A few certainly are, but given mass shooting perpetrators skew younger, they don’t tend to own more than a couple guns.

Accusing people with gun collections of being likely mass shooters is a bit like accusing people with expensive wine collections of being violent alcoholics. Sure, there are a few rare exceptions, but the overlap is minimal.

Most crime, including mass shootings, is carried out by people with a prior record who own — or stole — a single cheap pistol. Not that Riedman lets facts like that get in the way of making inflammatory claims in an attempt to tar law-abiding gun owners with the same mass-murdering brush.

 

Konstadinos Moros is an Associate Attorney with Michel & Associates, a law firm in Long Beach that regularly represents the California Rifle & Pistol Association (CRPA) in its litigation efforts to restore the Second Amendment in California. You can find him on his Twitter handle @MorosKostas. To donate to CRPA or become a member, visit https://crpa.org/.

This post was adapted by SNW from tweets posted by Konstadinos Moros.

6 Responses

  1. “We’re responding to mental health calls almost daily,” he said, adding that at least once a week they are dispatched to find people attempting to end their lives. “There needs to be more focus on mental health for the community, more resources and a wider continuum of care, both inpatient and outpatient. It’s not there. Our mental health community is struggling and as a result our community is struggling.”

    Federal and state officials can help by sending in more mental health support, he said, not just to the sheriff’s office but to the community.
    https://www.theoaklandpress.com/2024/06/17/sheriffs-investigators-still-searching-for-motive-into-splash-pad-shooting/

    Anyone who thinks the answer is more government-backed “mental health support” is part of the problem. How did we get by without all of this “mental health support” six decades ago? Did we have background checks for gun purchases back then? Was it common for a 42-year-old man to be living in his mother’s house? These people don’t want to admit that the problem is the culture that they have been promoting for my entire life. How many of these mass shooters have a girlfriend/wife waiting on them? How many have children to support? Men need a sense of purpose. When you remove that, you’re asking for trouble.

    1. We just had a guy here living in his moms basement at 47 kill his mother over a Playstation that SHE bought him for his birthday.

      Most people who own guns never harm anyone.
      Can the same be said for most people who live the gamer, weeb simp, INCEL life in their moms basement into their 30’s, 40’s even 50’s?

      Norman Bates is an archetype for a reason.

  2. “Stockpiling weapons is a red flag that someone may be plotting a mass shooting.”

    So the U.S. Government “may be plotting a mass shooting”.

    Since the USDA now has firearms, they “may be plotting a mass shooting”.

    Since the IRS bean counters now have their own ‘swat teams’ they “may be plotting a mass shooting”

    So the police departments “may be plotting a mass shooting”.

    Notice how the term ‘Stockpiling’ is often used by anti-gun agenda to describe any private person activity of collecting firearms.

    I saw we Red Flag the U.S. Government, because Biden has threatened to use government (military) force against law abiding gun owners and that will result in a ‘mass shooting’ by government. The Biden administration, there in lies the greatest source of who “may be plotting a mass shooting”.

    1. The bidum has said we need f15’s to take on the government.
      Then theres the idiot that said he’d use nukes.
      They have stockpiles of both.

  3. I must have missed that memo, by his account I should committed several mass shootings by now.

    Somehow I think is reasoning is lacking.

  4. If you count the hundreds of rabbits, squirrels, ducks, turkeys, deer and assorted other critters I’ve killed. Then yes, and damn they tasted good.

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